Will and Jada Pinkett Smith revealed on a new episode of “Red Table Talk” that they had an intervention for their son Jaden about his health.
“Red Table Talk” is back, and this week the Smith ladies invited Paula Williams to share her experiences as a pastor and transgender woman.
In addition to discussing the role of LGBTQ people in religious communities as well as Williams’ personal story, the hosts asked Williams about how life as a woman differs from life as a man during Monday’s episode.
“Me, I feel like if I was a man, I would be like ‘Wow, I have so much privilege as a man, I don’t know if I want to mess that up,’ ” Willow, 18, said. “It’s so much — religion, politics, everything is set up for the patriarchy.”
“White patriarchy, for sure,” her mom, Jada Pinkett Smith, added.
Williams followed up by describing how her life changed when the world started seeing her differently.
“As a male I was just pretty sure I was the stuff,” she said. “I think that is a strength that I had, that the world had been very good to me. Everything that I touched turned to gold.”
Williams went on to describe how women face different challenges and social pressures than men, something she realized when she transitioned.
“There are a lot of things you discover when you transition. One is, if you speak up, well if you speak up too strong, now you’re just too strong,” she said. “And if you don’t speak up strongly enough, well now you’re too acquiescent. And if you do speak up, you’re just going to be interrupted.”
Williams also recalled how one of her daughters, whom she adopted as a baby from Calcutta, India, made her aware of the privilege she used to have.
“Shortly after I transitioned and just started watching my power disappear, she’s like, ‘So, what do you think? So, do you have any idea now?’ ” Williams said her daughter asked.
Pinkett Smith said she admired Williams’ perspective.
“I am very impressed with your awareness of understanding your privilege as a white male,” Jada told her.
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